Give Me the Roses Now

Following are three stanzas of the song we Sacred Harp singers know as Odem. The words in The Original Sacred Harp were arranged by T. J. Denson for his song. Warren Steel dates the words -- written by James Rowe -- to 1915. I found the three stanzas below in "Give Me the Roses Now" -- tune by R. H. Cornelius, copyrighted in 1925. It is No. 104, a 6/4 time song, a duet of soprano and alto in G in Good Songs: Songs for Radio, Television and General Use (Dwight Brock, Editor, Stamps-Baxter Music & Printing Company, Dallas, TX, 1960). An arrangement of the melody can be found here. Hymn Time (as of today) lists 2658 texts written by Rowe!

1. Wonderful things of folks are said,
When they have passed away;
Roses adorn the narrow bed,
Over the sleeping clay.

2. Praises are heard not by the dead,
Roses they cannot see;
Let us not wait till souls have fled,
Generous friends to be.

3. Faults are forgiven when folks lie
Cold in the narrow bed;
Let us forgive them ere they die:
Now should the words be said.

Chorus: Give me the roses while I live,
Trying to cheer me on;
Useless the flowers that you give
After the soul is gone.

Good thoughts!

The following song by Jimmy Martin seems to be an arrangement of Cornelius's tune (I can't really tell).

Research links

Resources for researching old texts -- Foreign Language Bibles, Targums, Church Fathers, Apocryphal works, etc.

• A Hebrew - English Bible (According to the Masoretic Text and the JPS 1917 Edition)
• Antiquities of the Jews by Flavius Josephus
• Bible d'Olivétan 1535 (French)
• Byzantine Greek New Testament (BGNT)
• Dead Sea Scrolls Bible Translations
• Early Christian Writings (Apocrypha — Gnostics — Church Fathers)
• English Majority Text Version New Testament
• Español Reina Valera 1909
• Greek New Testament (Stephanos-1550 Textus Receptus)
• Greek Text of the New Testament, According to Family 35
• Jewish Bible (JPS 1917)
• La Sankta Biblio
• Luther's 1545 German Bible
• Majority Text New Testament by Pickering
• Online Greek /aBible (Nestle-Aland 26th edition, Critical Text)
• Pentateuchal Targumim (The Targums of Onkelos and Jonathan Ben Uzziel)
• Peshitta New Testament
• Revised Version with Apocrypha (1895)
• Septuagint (LXX) Online Texts
• Tanakh Hebrew Bible Project
• Targum Neofiti
• Targumic Texts
• The Book of Enoch
• The Book of Jasher
• The New Testament In The Original Greek Byzantine Textform
• The New Testament with Commentary Dr. Wilbur Pickering
• The Tertullian Project

Other Stuff of Possible Interest

• A History of Anti-pedobaptism: From the Rise of Pedobaptism to 1609
• An Inquiry into the Integrity of the Greek Vulgate: or, Received Text of the New Testament
• Blue Letter Bible Daily Bible Reading Program, Chronological Plan
• Colorado Springs Guidelines for Translation of Gender-Related Language in Scripture
• One-Year Parallel Chronological Study Bible
• Table of NT Greek Manuscripts
• The Names of God in the Old Testament

10 Famous Book Accumulaters, and other links

The posting of links does not constitute an endorsement of the sites linked, and not necessarily even agreement with the specific posts linked.

• 10 Famous Book Hoarders -- "Karl Lagerfeld has more books than pretty much anybody."
• Another Look at the Earliest Complete List of the Canon of the New Testament -- "Around 250 A.D., in his typical allegorical fashion, Origen used the story of Joshua to describe what seems to be the complete New Testament canon.
• A Once Gay Person's Thoughts On Gay Pride -- "The real problem is that gay pride pushes people further into a lifestyle that God does not condone and, therefore, cannot be what’s best for that person."
• Did the Gospel Authors Think They Were Writing Scripture? -- "...there was a clear apostolic self-awareness amongst the New Testament authors."
• I Don’t Mind Using Preferred Pronouns. I Mind Being Forced Into It -- "Eventually, they’ll come for you, too."
• I preached about a gun rights advocate. He wasn't who I thought. -- "Todd loves family, country and God. I do, too. I think it’s critical for the future of society that we learn to listen to each other, even in our differences. Todd does, too."
• Is my microwave watching me? Top 5 steps to ensure it's not -- "Dismissing IoT device threats in the “internet of everything” world is easy. But privacy and personal data loss isn’t science fiction, so don’t fall victim."
• Melvin Banks Had a Dream -- "When I grew up, all the Sunday school literature was produced by white people and all the writing was done from a white perspective."
• Otto Warmbier Death: 'Young, White, Rich and Clueless' Comments Get Professor Fired -- "Dettwyler posted her Facebook comment two days after Warmbier's death, reportedly writing, 'Is it wrong of me to think that Otto Warmbier got exactly what he deserved?'"
• Sermon Content Is What Appeals Most to Churchgoers -- "...a new Gallup poll suggests the content of the sermons could be the most important factor in how soon worshippers return."
• The Danger of “Church Shopping” -- "By shifting the focus away from the fixed point of Jesus and to the fickle, frequently diverging “paths” of individual churchgoers, churches lose their bearings and become inherently unstable."
• The Masoretic Hebrew vs. The Septuagint (Part 1) -- "The preference for the Septuagint in the Orthodox Church cannot be said to be on account of the poor state of the Masoretic text or that the Septuagint is always or even the majority of the time an earlier or more original text."
• Where Was The Land Of Uz? -- "All the clues point to the land of Uz being to the south and east of the promised land of Israel."
• Why Millennial Women Are Embracing Atheism -- "...atheist women are fueled by the same concerns plaguing millennials in general: a quest for independence and a rejection of the status quo."
• You Can’t Plant a Church If You Don’t Know What a Church Is -- "A clear ecclesiology on the front end defined our orientation for church planting."

Biblical timeline from Creation to Christ

The following is my approach to the biblical timeline of history and roughly estimating the age of the earth – adding and comparing the ages of the patriarchs, reigns of the kings and other dates mentioned in the Old Testament. There are some variations from my previous A Biblical timeline from creation.

TOWARD A BIBLICAL TIMELINE FROM CREATION
ASC = after sixth-day of creation
Event	Day/Year	Biblical Reference/s
Creation	Day 1	Genesis 1:1
Creation of Adam	Day 6	Genesis 1:26-31
Death of Adam	930 ASC	Genesis 5:5
Translation of Enoch	987 ASC	Genesis 5:23-24
Death of Seth	1042 ASC	Genesis 5:8
Birth of Noah	1056 ASC	Genesis 5:28-29
Death of Enos	1140 ASC	Genesis 5:11
Death of Cainan	1235 ASC	Genesis 5:14
Death of Mahalalel	1290 ASC	Genesis 5:17
Death of Jared	1422 ASC	Genesis 5:20
Birth of Shem	1558 ASC	Genesis 11:10
Death of Lamech	1651 ASC	Genesis 5:31
Death of Methuselah	1656 ASC	Genesis 5:27
Flood	1656 ASC	Genesis 7:11
Birth of Arphaxad	1658 ASC	Genesis 11:10
Tower of Babel	1757-1996	Gen 10:25; I Chron 1:19
Death of Peleg	1996 ASC	Genesis 11:18-19
Death of Nahor	1997 ASC	Genesis 11:24-25
Death of Noah	2006 ASC	Genesis 9:29
Birth of Abram	2008 ASC	Gen 11:32, 12:1-4; Acts 7:2-4
Death of Reu	2026 ASC	Genesis 11:20-21
Death of Serug	2049 ASC	Genesis 11:22-23
Death of Terah	2083 ASC	Genesis 11:32
Calling of Abram	2083 ASC	Genesis 12:1; Acts 7:4
Birth of Ishmael	2094 ASC	Genesis 16:16
Death of Arphaxad	2096 ASC	Genesis 11:12-13
Birth of Isaac	2108 ASC	Genesis 21:5
Death of Salah	2126 ASC	Genesis 11:14-15
Death of Sarah	2145 ASC	Genesis 23:1-2
Marriage of Isaac	2148 ASC	Genesis 25:20
Death of Shem	2158 ASC	Genesis 11:11
Death of Abraham	2183 ASC	Genesis 25:7
Death of Eber	2187 ASC	Genesis 11:16-17
Birth of Jacob & Esau	2168 ASC	Genesis 25:26
Marriage of Esau	2208 ASC	Genesis 26:24
Death of Ishmael	2231 ASC	Genesis 25:17
Marriage of Jacob	2252 ASC	Genesis 29:20-28
Birth of Reuben	2252 ASC	Genesis 29:32
Birth of Joseph	2259 ASC	Genesis 30:22-24
Jacob leaves Laban	2265 ASC	Genesis 31:41
Joseph sold to slavery	2276 ASC	Gen 37:2,28
Death of Isaac	2288 ASC	Genesis 35:28
Death of Jacob	2315 ASC	Genesis 47:9,28; 49:33
Death of Joseph	2369 ASC	Genesis 50:22,26
Birth of Moses	ca 2433	80 years before the Exodus
Moses flees Egypt	ca 2473	40 years before the Exodus
The Exodus from Egypt	2513 ASC	Gal 3:17; 430 from calling of Abram
The Wandering	2513-2553	40 years in the Wilderness
Death of Moses	2553 ASC	Deuteronomy 34:5-7
Entrance into Canaan	2553 ASC	Joshua 1:1-2
Time of the Judges	ca 450 yrs	Acts 13:20; circa 450 years
Saul made King	2949 ASC	I Samuel 10:20-24
David made King	2989 ASC	II Sam 2:4; 5:4; I Kings 2:11
Solomon made King	3029 ASC	I Kings 2:12
Temple began	3033 ASC	I Kings 6:1; 480 after the Exodus
Temple finished	3040 ASC	I Kings 6:37-38
End of Solomon's reign	3069 ASC	I Kings 11:42
Kingdom divided	3070 ASC	1st year of Rehoboam
Calling of Isaiah	3290 ASC	Last year of Uzziah
Captivity of Israel	3317 ASC	II Kings 18:10-12
Captivity of Judah	3449 ASC	II Kings 25:1-21 (70 years)
Decree of Cyrus	3519 ASC	2 Chron 36:21-23; Isaiah 45
Ezra 1-6	3519 ASC	Ezra 1:1-3
Haggai and Zechariah	3539 ASC	Haggai 1:1; Zechariah 1:1
Esther	3575 ASC	Esther 1:1-3
Ezra 7-10	3601 ASC	Ezra 7:1
Nehemiah	3614 ASC	Nehemiah 1:1
Coming of Jesus	4002 ASC	Dan 9:24-27; 483 from Cyrus decree

I have based it on dating from biblical creation, rather than trying to correlate it to historical BCE dating. I hope the chart comes through with useful visibility (I’m just pasting it in from Excel).