I have noticed some popular “primeval chronology” charts that find their way around the internet. They are designed to challenge the chronology of the Hebrew Masoretic Text, calling it “corrupted.” The Genesis 5 chronology also tweaks the LXX timeline to keep Methuselah from living through the flood. I have created this chart to remove those objectionable features while providing a comparison of the chronologies in the Hebrew Masoretic Text, the Samaritan Pentateuch, and the Greek Septuagint (LXX) text. The color coding and other clarity is much better in the originals, and I apologize for the lack of crispness of the scans.
“Ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein.” Caveat lector
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Wednesday, January 04, 2023
Genesis 5, Genesis 11: Primeval Chronology
Friday, April 29, 2022
Genealogy quotes
One of my hobbies of passion is genealogy, but I think I seldom mention it on this blog. I will try to rectify that a bit. Enjoy.
“Genealogy is a pursuit in which you confuse the dead and irritate the living.” -- Unknown
“A genealogist must have the patience of Job; the curiosity of a cat; the stubbornness of a mule; the eyesight of an eagle; be blessed with the luck of the Irish; and have the ability and stamina of a camel to go long hours without food or drink.” -- Unknown
“Every man is a quotation from his ancestors.” -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
“A modest acquaintance with one’s ancestry is a birthright, and one of which no one should wish to deprive himself.” -- Charles Edmundson
“The cheapest way to have your family tree traced is to run for a public office.” -- Unknown
“Why waste your money looking up your family tree? Just go into politics and your opponents will do it for you.” -- Mark Twain
“Now that I have a computer for my genealogical records, I find that my records are just as confused as before, however, now my confusion is better organized.” -- Jack W. Briscoe
“Some family trees have beautiful leaves, and some have just a bunch of nuts. Remember, it is the nuts that make the tree worth shaking.” -- Unknown
“If you don’t know history, you don’t know anything. You are a leaf that doesn’t know it is part of a tree.” -- Michael Crichton
“If you would not be forgotten, as soon as you are dead and rotten; Either write things worthy of reading, or do things worthy of writing.” -- Benjamin Franklin
“He who has no fools, knaves, or beggars in his family tree was begot by a flash of lightning.” -- Old English proverb
“If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance.” -- George Bernard Shaw
The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln
Thursday, February 03, 2022
Links on my right sidebar
- East Texas Sacred Harp - A site to promote the Sacred Harp Singings that we have in East Texas.
- Mt. Carmel blog - Includes the text of my history of the old Mount Carmel Baptist Church in southern Rusk County, Texas, as well as other Rusk County Baptist History (churches, people, places).
- Old Prospect Baptist Church - Our church website, not very well kept up. Not exactly my best skill set.
- Sacred Harp Singing in Texas - A website that promotes Sacred Harp Singings in Texas, with singing announcements, history, biography, and more. Maintained by Gaylon Powell.
- What’s Happening at Old Redland? - Information about the progress, or lack of progress, in maintaining the old Redland church house (aka we have no money).
Not all the posts on these blogs are about the Bible, but the defense of the Traditional Text of the Bible is a primary interest and topic of the owners and contributors. Each have a slightly different approach to the subject. Very helpful.
- Standard Sacred Text.com - Blog of son and father Peter Van Kleeck, Jr. and Peter Van Kleeck, Sr., to promote and defend what they define as a Standard Sacred Text.
- Stylos - Blog of Jeff Riddle, pastor of Christ Reformed Baptist Church. Defense and promotion of the traditional original language texts and related issues.
- What is Truth? - Blog of Kent Brandenburg (Baptist missionary in Utah) and Thomas Ross (Baptist Mukwonago Baptist Church). Defense and promotion of the traditional language texts, the KJAV English translation, and related issues.
- Baptist History Homepage - The Baptist History Homepage is a huge site for Baptist history, original Baptist documents, Baptist biographies, etc, maintained by Jim Duvall, Editor.
- Biblical Studies Blog - The blog of BiblicalStudies.org, an online host of Journals, Monographs and Lecture Series. The blog primarily consists of free downloads of public domain titles. Recent examples include Commentary on Jeremiah and Lamentations by Benjamin Blayney, Regnum Dei (Kingdom of God) by Archibald Robertson, and Treatise on the Use of the Tenses of Hebrew by Samuel Rolles Driver.
- Find-A-Grave - “Search or browse cemeteries and grave records for every-day and famous people from around the world.”
- Praisegod Barebones - “The online musings of Bart Barber,” a Southern Baptist pastor historian. Not very active anymore (as a personal blogger).
- The Baptist Sentinel - A pastor friend writes about the doctrines and books of the Bible, and preaching the Word of God, history of Christianity, and pastoral ministry.
- Viajando Ligera - Related to my daughter’s time in Costa Rica. Not currently active (i.e., no new posts are being added).
Tuesday, October 12, 2021
The Family of J. R. Graves
As an avid genealogist as well as a Baptist history buff, I noticed something that is a frequent problem among historians of the religious (or even the popular) – a tendency to ignore the families of the people they study. Even Graves’s son-in-law, Orren Luico Hailey in J. R. Graves: Life, Times and Teachings, spends precious little time writing about the family of Graves. Further, genealogists at Ancestry.com seem not to have connected that he had a family by his first marriage. I have spent a fair amount of time and effort in censuses, periodicals (both religious & secular), and other records trying to “reconstruct” the family of J. R. Graves so that we might know a little more about them. This includes (1) creating a “James Robinson Graves Family Tree” at Ancestry.com, (2) trying to add and link up the family members on Find-A-Grave, and (3) adding a section on the family of J. R. Graves at Wikipedia. (Note: the Ancestry family tree is set as public, so if you have an Ancestry.com account, you should be able to see it.)
The number of children of J. R. Graves should be substantially correct. The 1900 census cites Georgianna Graves as the mother of three children, and all three were living. Concerning the death of Louisa Jane Graves, a report in The Baptist mentions five children, all of whom are known. The deaths of the children of Lua Spencer Graves are reported in The Baptist. It hardly seems there could have been more than these four children in their brief marriage of about 5-1/2 years.
Parents
Zuinglius Calvin Graves (13 October 1790-4 April 1820) (son of Luther and Phebe Graves of Leominster, Massachusetts; also spelled Greaves)
1st wife
Lucinda Ellen “Lua” Spencer Graves (1826-1851) married 1845 in Ashtabula County, Ohio
- Zuinglius Graves (1846–1846)
- Lua Ellen Graves (1847-1847)
- James Rollin Graves (1849-1849)
- Luella Kells Graves (1850-1860)
Louisa Jane Snider Graves (1838-1867) married in 1856 in Madison County, Tennessee, at Jackson
- Nora Snider Graves Hailey (1857–1933)
- James Robinson Graves (1860–1929)
- George S. Graves (1862–1886)
- Lois M. Graves Crutcher (1865–1897)
- Lou Ellen Turley Graves Wood (1867-1948)
Georgianna Snider Graves (1843-1932) married in 1869, probably at Memphis
- William Caruthers Graves (1870–1960)
- Lillian M. Graves (ca. 1876–1899)
- Infant Graves (1879–1979)
- Zuinglius Calvin Graves (1881–1926)
[Lois M. Graves] had been reared under Congregational influences, but that when contemplating a profession of religion she demanded baptism on a profession of her faith, at the hands of Dr. Burnap, then pastor of the Congregational Church at Chester [Vermont], but subsequently of Lowell, Mass. Her views in regard to this ordinance were derived entirely from the reading of the Bible. She had never been thrown among Baptists, nor had read their works; and the reasonings by which the Congregational minister sought to removed her scruples as to the practice of his own communion, only confirmed her judgement in the correctness of her interpretation of the sacred oracles on this subject. Upon the avowal of her determination to abide by her conviction of the divine teaching, the Doctor, though with evident reluctance, acceded to her demand to be buried with Christ in baptism, and himself administered the rite. Mrs. Graves was then about 34 years of age. Subsequently she came to entertain doubts as to the validity of the baptism thus administered, about 12 years ago was re-baptized by the Rev. Dr. J. M. Pendleton, at the First Baptist Church, Nashville.
Monday, October 11, 2021
Tidbits for Ancestry.com users
- Ancestry Hints® for the Wrong Person -- “When Ancestry Hints® are the wrong person in your tree, you can attach the record associated with the hint to the correct person.”
- Potential Mother and Father Hints -- “A potential mother or potential father on your family tree is a hint or collection of hints that point to a certain person. You can accept, ignore, or reject a potential parent suggestion.”
- How Ancestry Hints® are Updated -- “When we update your hints, we want to put the best hints we find at the top of your hints lists. You can find these lists on the Person Page, Hints tab, and the All Hints Page.”
Saturday, September 25, 2021
Ways to handle contradicting genealogical evidence
Here are three simple ways to handle contradicting evidence:
Ask Questions. As you come across conflicting fragments of information in your research that you’re unsure how to handle, take a step back and consider the following questions:
- When and where was the record created?
- What information is missing or incomplete from the record?
- How was the information recorded?
- Who created the record?
- How reliable is the information in the record?
By asking these questions, you’ll begin to piece bits of information together while discovering what other research still needs to be done...And then you make a research plan, and you keep a research log so you know where you’ve been and what you’ve found.
Friday, September 24, 2021
What is the Genealogical Proof Standard?
The Genealogical Proof Standard is a process used by genealogists to demonstrate what the minimums are that genealogists must do for their work to be credible. Based off a book written by Christine Rose entitled Genealogical Proof Standard: Building a Solid Case, this standard lays out five essential steps for accurate research:“The Genealogical Proof Standard isn’t a device per se,” says Ison, “but it’s a process that will help us to determine what we know, helps us decide what we want to learn, helps us explain our work to others, gives us confidence about the direction we’re going, is the basis for approaching difficult research problems using indirect evidence, and lastly, it helps us to feel secure and safe in our conclusions.”
- Reasonably exhaustive research has been completed.
- Each statement of fact has a complete and accurate source citation.
- The evidence is reliable and has been skillfully correlated and interpreted.
- Any contradictory evidence has been resolved.
- The conclusion has been soundly reasoned and coherently written.
Thursday, September 23, 2021
Multiplying Ancestors
- 4 grandparents
- 8 great grandparents
- 16 second great grandparents
- 32 third great grandparents
- 64 fourth great grandparents
- 128 fifth great grandparents
- 256 sixth great grandparents
- 512 seventh great grandparents
- 1024 eight great grandparents
- 2048 ninth great grandparents
- 4096 tenth great grandparents
- 8192 eleventh great grandparents
Wednesday, February 03, 2021
Mrs. R. G. Burt, the KJV, and the RSV
In a December 5th issue of his newspaper, Editor Oliver Emmerich thought it would be interesting “to know the reaction of McComb ministers to the new Bible which was recently published” (that is, the Revised Standard Version). Concerning their reaction, Emmerich said it was not an effort to put them on the spot, but to get “an enlightened viewpoint from the local ministers who are close to our people.” I did not notice whether any local ministers replied. However, a prominent local lady did.[i]
Mrs. R. G. Burt (nee Fannie Crawford) responded.[ii] She
said she was “neither a preacher nor a preacher’s son,” She was, however, “a
Christian that believes the Word of God shall stand forever.” Mrs. Burt
defended the Christians in Shelbyville, Tennessee who intended to burn a copy
of the RSV, stating that they were “real Christians who believe the whole Bible
and do not believe in committing the Jehudi Act [referring to Jeremiah 36:23, rlv] by cutting out things that prick their hearts.”[iii]
She considered the new version “the interpretations and explanations of
Modernists, Liberals, Evolutionists, Unitarians, and Infidels. This gang wants
a new Bible because the King James Version embarrasses them and shows them up.”
Concerning “local pastors being put on the spot,” she thought it “their duty to
tell all the people whom they were instrumental in getting them to purchase
this unholy Bible that at last they were wrong in being so easily led themselves
by this anti-Christ gang.” She complained, “Southern Baptist [who] used whole
pages in their literature and different religious periodicals, recommending it
in their state papers should also be ‘put on the spot’.” She thought a “real
God-called preacher is always willing to acknowledge his error, or admit he had
been misled or hoodwinked.”
She concludes in mentioning several things she finds wrong with the RSV.
Concerning Isaiah 7:14, she states, “If Mary was merely a young woman and not a virgin she
was guilty of adultery, which is attributed to her by the Christ haters of the
Centuries.” Not fooled herself, she nevertheless asserts, “If I had been fooled
into buying this false blasphemous Bible I would do as the people of Shelbyville did.”
“May God have mercy upon those who have meddled and tampered with the Word of
God.”
Mrs. R. G. Burt, Sr., in “Readers’ Letters,” McComb Enterprise-Journal,
Monday, December 15, 1952, p. 2
[ii] Though she was not “a preacher’s son,” Fannie Estelle Crawford Burt was the granddaughter and great-granddaughter of Baptist preachers – her grandfather being Benjamin Alexander Crawford. Fannie Burt and my wife are both descendants of preacher sons of Elder Jesse Howell Crawford, an early leader in the Mississippi Baptist Association.
[iii] In the end, the Shelbyville pastor decided against burning the RSV. Some others did burn it, or at least a page or pages from the RSV.
Wednesday, November 20, 2019
Bethany Baptist, 125 years
Tuesday, April 30, 2019
BillionGraves and Find-A-Grave
Tuesday, March 05, 2019
From A. J. Whitten
The Gospel Messenger, Volume 10, No. 1, January 1888, inside front cover
Thursday, August 24, 2017
Wyatt Vaughn
Wyatt Vaughn came to Texas before the Civil War. Wyatt came from Greene County, Georgia and settled in Rusk County. He had a half-sister, Rebecca Astin. Wyatt bought land in the Stockman League in October of 1854 from Clinton D. Holleman, and again in February 1860 from James King.[i]
Wyatt Vaughn married Eliza Jane Parker while they lived in Georgia. Wyatt was born January 11, 1820, and Eliza was born February 22, 1829, with daughter of William Parker and Eunice Jane Nelson. Rebecca Astin married Edwin S. Parker, a brother of Eliza. In Georgia (Greene County) they were members of Smyrna (now Siloam) Baptist Church and White Plains Baptist Church.
Eight children were born to Wyatt and Eliza: John W., December 1, 1845; Susan E., March 5, 1851; Vincent Thornton, November 10, 1848; Olenza Burma, June 5, 1851 (all in Georgia); and Nancy Jane, February 24, 1854; William Thomas, May 1, 1856; Marshall Lewis, May 24, 1858; and Jabez C., February 26, 1861 (all in Texas).
Wyatt and his son John joined the Texas State Guards (Company B), and both died of typhoid fever at Galveston (March 28 and March 25, 1864, respectively) during the Civil War. Eliza Vaughn died January 8, 1887 and was buried in the Shiloh Cemetery.
The church was the center of interest for many of the Vaughns. The children of Wyatt and Eliza were active members of the Smyrna Baptist Church in the Oak Flat Community. V. T. and M. L. were ministers, and W. T. (called “Bud”) was a deacon. William W. Vaughn, son of V. T.; Benjamin L., son of M. L.; Raymond R. Scruggs, son of Olenza Vaughn Scruggs; and Roe T. Holleman, son of Nancy Jane Vaughn Holleman, were Baptist ministers. John F. Vaughn, son of W. T., was a deacon at Smyrna. M. L. Vaughn had two grandsons who served as deacons at Smyrna and one grandson who was a Baptist preacher (all now deceased). There are also two living great-grandsons and one great-great grandson of M. L. who are Baptist ministers.
John W. is buried at Galveston. Susan E. married Wylie M. Pierce and is believed to be buried at Shiloh Cemetery in an unmarked grave. V. T. Vaughn is buried at Shiloh. Burma, Jane, W. T., M. L., and Jabez are buried at Holleman Cemetery.
At the time this history was written, the oldest living descendant of Wyatt Vaughn was Simeon Levi Vaughn, son of M. L., and the youngest Vaughn descendant was Zechariah, great-great-grandson of M. L. Vaughn. Uncle Levi has since passed away, and others have been born.
Sunday, July 09, 2017
Chronogenealogy in Genesis 5
For example, John Millam writes, "At the time of David, there were three head temple musicians, one from each of the 3 divisions of the Levites. There is Heman of the Kohathite division (verses 33-38), Asaph of the Gershonite division (verses 39-42), and Ethan of the Merarite division (verses 44-47). In each case, the genealogies start with Levi, who was the father of Kohath, Gershon, and Merari and ancestor of these three men. So, we have three genealogies side-by-side extending from Levi to the time of King David, yet the genealogies contain 21, 15, and 14 names respectively for exactly the same span of time. This suggests that at least the latter two genealogies are highly telescoped." That someone would believe that various family generations correspond chronologically leaves me aghast. My father was almost the same age as my wife's maternal grandfather, and my maternal grandfather was old enough to have been a grandfather of my wife's grandfather. Three of my father's great-grandfathers were Civil War veterans. A pastor friend who was only a few years older than my father was the SON of a Confederate veteran. Genealogies just don't correspond the way Millam seems to think, and such gaps as he supposes are merely imaginary without any supporting evidence.
Many Bible students have tried to add thousands of years to the chrono-genealogy of Genesis chapter 5, hoping to increase the earth's age to something that satisfies some scientists and their sycophants. It doesn't work. Of all the explanations proffered for gaps in Genesis 5, none can offer any reasonable explanation of why the writer would even bother with a chronology here if he is merely relating genealogy.
It is interesting that the narrative supplies extra information that ties certain sons directly to their fathers, without any gaps.
- Genesis 4:25-26 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.
- Genesis 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
- Genesis 5:28-29 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son: And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed.
- Jude 14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, (Enoch is the 7th generation from Adam in Genesis 5)
The best approach is to accept the text as written and let the scientific chips fall where they may.
Wednesday, June 28, 2017
Genesis Chronology and Genealogy
- Are There Gaps in the Genesis Genealogies? -- “Chronologists working from the Bible consistently get 2,000 years between Adam and Abraham. Few would dispute that Abraham lived around 2000 B.C.”
- Are the Genealogies in Genesis 5 Complete? -- “There is a controversy whether the genealogies in Genesis 5 are complete.”
- Are There Gaps in the Biblical Genealogies? -- “On these various grounds we conclude that the Scriptures furnish no data for a chronological computation prior to the life of Abraham...
- Biblical timeline from Creation to Christ -- "Dating is from biblical creation, rather than correlated to historical BCE dating."
- Do the Genesis Genealogies Contain Gaps? -- “...the occurrence of fluidity in some genealogies does not prove fluidity in all genealogies.”
- How Young Is the Earth? Applying Simple Math to Data Provided in Genesis -- “Genesis 5:3 states that Adam was 130 years old when Seth was "begotten." How old was Adam when he begot Seth? Adam was 130. Does it matter whether Seth was Adam's son, grandson, great-grandson, or an even later descendant? No, the answer is the same: 130.”
- Infeasibility of Gaps in the Genesis Genealogies -- “In the Genesis 5 and 11 lists, however, additional biographical information makes them ‘tighter’ than any other genealogy.”
- Mind the Gap -- “The author of Genesis perhaps had many reasons to include ages - to show declining lifespans after the flood, perhaps to indicate the distance between primeval human life and his present.”
- Primeval Chronology -- “Our current chronology is based upon the prima facie impression of these genealogies.”
- The Biblical Genealogies Were Known To Have Gaps -- “Although the genealogies are accurate and representative, I don't believe Moses or his contemporaries viewed them as being complete.”
- The Genesis Genealogies -- “In modern times, genealogies are for the purpose of communicating detailed information about history and family relations.”
- The Meaning of the Chronogenealogies of Genesis 5 and 11 -- “At present [1980] there are two major historical interpretations, i.e., interpretations that do not dismiss the figures in Genesis 5 and 11 as non-historical.”
- The Selective Genealogies of Genesis 5 and 11 -- “As is common in ancient genealogies, it is apparent that this genealogy contains gaps.”
- Who Was Born When Enosh Was 90? A Semantic Reevaluation of William Henry Green’s Chronological Gaps -- “Chronological computation has always been so inviting because Gen 5 and 11 specify the age of each patriarch at the birth of his descendant, unlike any other genealogies in Scripture or in extant ancient Near Eastern writings.”




