Friday, September 22, 2006

Divine healing

Just read a short treatise with the following declaration: "God now only heals through His providence, which does not remove the need for proper medical treatment."

While I agreed with the basic premise of the writer, basically that modern so-called faith healers are really fake healers, I'm not sure I can agree with the above statement. What do you think?

I am not certain what the writer believes about providence and what it is, since he closed with the paragraph which included "God now only heals through His providence".

Some definitions of providence are (1) God's will, as expressed through events on Earth, (2) a manifestation of God's foresightful care for his creatures, (3) the guardianship and control exercised by a deity, (4) the continual care that God exercises over the universe He created.

Now this declaration breaks down into two parts. First, "God now only heals through His providence." It would seem to me that ultimately all healing comes under the providence of God, but this phrase seems to (1) with the word now indicate a difference from earlier times and with the word only indicate former healings were through "more" than His providence; (2) exclude for today any of the different kinds of healing that were through "more" than His providence. Second, His providence "does not remove the need for proper medical treatment." If this means only that medical treatment is within the providence of God, I agree. If it means that all of God's providence in healing is through medical treatment, I disagree. I think God heals directly and through answered prayer in addition to, in conjunction with and/or apart from medical treatment, even in this day and age. No need for the fake healers to drive us from that ground, IMO.

What do you think?


amity said...

Matthew 21:21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. 22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.

oil helps, too.

and that's what I think ;)

Jim1927 said...

Never seen a mountain moved!

I believe in faith healing, but I have my doubts about faith healers.

What about Job? We learn that his sufferings were at the pleasure of God to serve His purpose.

I think I might have questions than answers when it comes to demanding that God listen to me when I call....believing or not!



clinch64 said...

The faith healers have been exposed on numerous occasions, but so many keep flocking back to them. If you will notice, their so-called miracles are usually something simple in nature. Things like a cured headache, or making a shorter leg out to its natural length. It was proven that an old magicians trick was used for the latter. If they really were divinely inspired, they should be able to cure all forms of cancer,stroke,etc.


R. L. Vaughn said...

The theology of the so-called "faith healers" just cannot or will not take into account the suffering of God's people.

LettingHim said...

When it comes to things like "faith healers" it seems to me that the comments about such often sound like they're coming from someone who knows it all. As for me, I hold out some somewhere, in some place I've never heard of, someone I've never heard of...well...that they just might have some things from God that I don't know about. Most may be "fake healers", but I don't know if they all are.

Anonymous said...

Our natural faith can heal nothing.
The faith of Christ, within His born again ones, has no bounds, whether it be healing, comforting,etc. Modern day "faith healers" are a fake and enter into their vodo for only one purpose $$$$$.....
AMEN!! to the conclusion by clinch64. God bless, Hoyt Sparks.

LettingHim said...

I guess what I'm trying to say is what if someone were to heal someone else, and every indication was there that the person who was the insturment of the healing power (the 'healer', if you will) was a Christian, wouldn't people flock to that person, and wouldn't WE call that person a "faith healer", and wouldn't we say they were in it for the money? I mean, would we say the same things about them that were said of Jesus? Isn't it possible that someone could have a gift, a gift of faith OR healing, and NOT be a fraud? What if we found that someone in our church seemed to bring about physical healing in nearly if not all the people they prayed for? I mean, if somebody suddenly started healing people, would we all automatically say, "They're a fake healer". Guys, we don't know everything, and we don't think as we ought...not yet. I agree that most so-called "faith healers" are indeed fakes, but to say that they all are is to lie, because we do not know it. And by the way, the faith that does not doubt is the faith OF Jesus himself. In Matthew 21:21 what Jesus was saying was that His life, allowed to be lived in the believer's body upon denial of "self", is not bound. Period. Jesus was giving us another example of what is not possible without Him. (I'm sorry if I took too much space here.)