tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20166943.post8608418213217286839..comments2024-03-28T14:43:35.296-05:00Comments on Ministry and Music - Seeking the Old Paths: Should Holmes have been more tolerant?R. L. Vaughnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10992710377193518029noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20166943.post-57914368522490616322009-02-23T17:07:00.000-06:002009-02-23T17:07:00.000-06:00Posting for all a quote from the first link:One of...Posting for all a quote from the first link:<BR/><BR/><I>One of the constables suggested to the 3 prisoners that if they were free, then all might go together to the Lynn church for evening services. Clarke replied (humor presumably intended) that if they were free, none of this awkwardness would have happened. Yet, he said, we are at your disposal and if you want us to go to church we will go to church. Off they went, but on the way Clarke informed the constable that if forced to attend "your meeting, we shall declare our dissent from you both by word and gesture." Believing this to be a problem for sacred officers, not civil ones, the constable held his peace. Upon entering the church, where services were already underway, the three visitors took off their hats, "civilly saluted", sat down, and put their hats back on again. This action was more than rude; the replacing of hats was an open declaration of disapproval of whatever was being said or done.</I><BR/><BR/>Baptistbyconviction, I am interested by your question about the hat episode and it being disrespectful. This interests me because it is something I have mulled over from time to time. From our standpoint of freedom of religion from maybe 350 years later, it is probably hard to relate. I notice the wearing of hats/caps inside by men these days seems to be quite common. I have the etiquette of men not wearing hats indoors ingrained in me enough that I find it annoying when young people do so, though I suppose I'm becoming more used to it. So, anyway, to me I guess the wearing of the hat kind of comes off as simple rudeness. But put back in that time situation, it was a silent protest against forced religion -- something that Baptist folks had to deal with quite commonly.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for mentioning "As with Roses". I am not familiar with it. What are your thoughts on it?R. L. Vaughnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10992710377193518029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20166943.post-63656269413693471692009-02-23T05:44:00.000-06:002009-02-23T05:44:00.000-06:00I have never really given much thought to Holmes's...I have never really given much thought to Holmes's hat episode. I guess the question would be, was it respectful of him? But, since he was there against his own will, then according to the belief of individual soul liberty, he had the right to object and protest. They for certain lived in a different day, whereas today we are not persecuted by the Congregational church down the street. (thanks be to God and His Baptists) Have you ever watched the recent movie about Holmes entitled "As with Roses" by Shiloh films? You can find it linked from my blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com