tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20166943.post116419386510091152..comments2024-03-25T15:42:14.449-05:00Comments on Ministry and Music - Seeking the Old Paths: A hard questionR. L. Vaughnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10992710377193518029noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20166943.post-77319244077904300312007-08-04T20:44:00.000-05:002007-08-04T20:44:00.000-05:00Billy, sorry to be so long in getting back to this...Billy, sorry to be so long in getting back to this thread. I almost forgot about it.<BR/><BR/>There are a couple of things this "hard question" was designed for (whether it accomplished them or not) -- to make one think about the following:<BR/><BR/>1. Many people who hold a general atonement believe that unconditional election and particular atonement are reducible to favoritism on the part of God. Yet, those who hold general atonement are not free from their own system's possible charge of favoritism on the part of God. When it is personal belief/faith that "makes the difference" in the salvation of one person and not another, and personal belief/faith comes by hearing the word of God, what about those who never hear and therefore never "have a chance"?<BR/><BR/>2. Is there a "works element" in the general atonement position? It is without a doubt (unless we charge favoritism) that God has done JUST AS MUCH for the salvation of those who remain lost as He has for those who are born again. SO, the element that makes the difference must be in man himself and not in God.R. L. Vaughnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10992710377193518029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20166943.post-56205755172961403392007-07-30T23:50:00.000-05:002007-07-30T23:50:00.000-05:00Yes. It is certainly not God's fault!Yes. It is certainly not God's fault!Billy Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201186512079363846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20166943.post-81676586672177333292007-07-30T16:08:00.000-05:002007-07-30T16:08:00.000-05:00Thanks, Billy. My question was mainly directed at ...Thanks, Billy. My question was mainly directed at the comment of the anonymous poster, but I am glad for anyone to answer.<BR/><BR/>One person drawn by the Spirit of God trusts/believes/accepts, while another person, for whom the Lord has done just as much, doesn't believe/denies/rejects. Why? I understand that both answers are indicating it is something within man himself that makes the difference. Is that correct?R. L. Vaughnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10992710377193518029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20166943.post-48557981506790853132007-07-30T10:26:00.000-05:002007-07-30T10:26:00.000-05:00My point in the first comment is that God clearly ...My point in the first comment is that God clearly has created us with the ability to accept or reject Him even as his Spirit draws. <BR/><BR/>I Cor 10:13- After one is saved God always provides a way of escape from sin, but even with the prompting of his Spirit we sometimes choose to reject his door out. <BR/><BR/>What causes us to reject his way of escape as believers? We chose what seems to be best for us at the moment. We allow our sin nature to control rather than the Spirit of God.Billy Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201186512079363846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20166943.post-41000293202282542092007-07-29T08:10:00.000-05:002007-07-29T08:10:00.000-05:00That being the case, what is the difference that c...That being the case, what is the difference that causes some to believe and not the others?R. L. Vaughnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10992710377193518029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20166943.post-87964942202270530622007-07-28T11:23:00.000-05:002007-07-28T11:23:00.000-05:00The scriptures say plainly that the difference bet...The scriptures say plainly that the difference between one person becoming a Christian and another is that one believes and the other doesn'tAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20166943.post-62685920574804141842007-07-26T23:33:00.000-05:002007-07-26T23:33:00.000-05:00God created us to love Him. He demonstrated His lo...God created us to love Him. He demonstrated His love to us through Jesus and desires that we demonstrate our love for Him by following Christ (which begins at the moment of trust).Billy Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04201186512079363846noreply@blogger.com